I was reading the question from readers section... man at least it was really questions from readers. Today is "questions completely unimportant that happens to be the only one that the GB is ok showing they are not sure"
Ray Frankz
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Pre 2000 magazines now on JW Org- have there been alterations to the originals?
by joey jojo injust wanted to ask if anyone has found any glaring changes to the pre- 2000 wt or awake articles that have been put online compared to the original issues?.
cheers.
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BOE-2018-04-16--Beards and Special Privileges!
by Atlantis in2018-04-16-boebeards and special privilegeshttps://we.tl/qoxbkltp4latlantis!.
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Ray Frankz
So if you have conservative hounders on the body you will probably not experience any upward mobility in privileges .
The problem is that if they are not conservative they don't get to become a "hounder".
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BOE-2018-04-16--Beards and Special Privileges!
by Atlantis in2018-04-16-boebeards and special privilegeshttps://we.tl/qoxbkltp4latlantis!.
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Ray Frankz
Atlantis, that's it. It's 95% the same letter.
In other words, don't bother asking anything to the GB or local branch, they will send you the same letter that you can find in the nearest apostate website.
Neat Blue Dog
Just to highlihgt, they aren't actually the same letter. The one on this thread is from 2018 and this one is from 2017. The point is that they don't actually write letters to answer the JW, it's more like an authomatic response like we can find in and FAQ section of many websites.
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BOE-2018-04-16--Beards and Special Privileges!
by Atlantis in2018-04-16-boebeards and special privilegeshttps://we.tl/qoxbkltp4latlantis!.
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Ray Frankz
Ok, that's an interesting letter.
Now, take a look at the letter this brother I follow on Instagram recieved.
I've talked to him, I'd say he's a PIMI.
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Governing Body vs Local Elder Body
by Boredposter inshortly before my exit a youngish elder who recently came from brooklyn bethel commented to me how the local elder meetings were like the wild wild west.
according to him in brooklyn there was a very definite way to handle things.
he seemed to imply the brooklyn bethel way was better.. after seeing gb member splaines video about how elders could come to an united decision i was reminded of this.. i had to wonder about this then and i wonder now.
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I think the main difference is that when the local elders take a decision that affects negatively one's life is mostly beacuse they are indoctrinated to believe they have God's spirit. When the GB does the same is because they want to mantain power.
We all know there are a few number of "awaken" elders and some people at the world headquarters too. My question is: Do you tink is there anyone out there in the congregations or branches that is Awake but continues to 'make progress' in order to accumulate power? A kind of JW Frank Underwood? (I'm not considering the GB members in this questions)
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You Might Be in a Cult if...
by awake!watcher in... you are told to trust the slave as you do jehovah and jesus..
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Ray Frankz
You are told to give up on your own rights for the wishes of the leadership
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Ray Frankz
Please, where did you guys got this info? I need to drop it accidentally in a conversation.
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Are You Proud of Your Country?
by snugglebunny insome people are of the opinion that it doesn't make any sense to be proud of one's nationality because we had nothing to do with where we were born.
the decision wasn't ours.
they opine that it's ludicrous to be proud of our countries' prior achievements if we had no part in those achievements because we weren't even around then.
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Ray Frankz
After realizing politics isn't a "devil" thing and it's not better or worse than religion, I started to analyze myself and find out how I stand concerning politics. What I'm sure so far:
I'm pro democracy
I'm pro free market
I'm pro the laicism of state as much as I'm pro of freedom of religion (yes, I'm against what's happening in Russia)
I'm against laws that make it easy for civils to get guns
and, concerning the topic:
i'm against nationalism.
in my opinion what caused the holocaust wasn't the political position of Germany. This position, indeed, caused the war, but in the war there were two sides killing people, holocaust was genocide and in my opinion this was caused by the nationalism. We are too far in the human history to let the coordinates where we are born dictate who we love or who we hate.
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Are the 8 superstar Popes planning a purge?
by Sour Grapes inthere are over 8 million jdubs and i would venture a guess that at least 20% to 30% are pimo.
in my opinion, the kingdom hauls are only half full for two reasons....many have left but the majority are pimo and any little excuse will keep them home and they will report their token ghost hours in service.
all it takes to stay home is being tired, too much school homework or i will go next week, no doubt many have taken part-time jobs and the fear of working the second shift and the guilt of missing meetings is gone.
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Ray Frankz
"All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether or not these are Bible based or appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."
Is the "bible- based" part factual?
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Anti-JW movie on Netflix?
by Ray Frankz ini'm watching the new netflix movie "come sunday".
it's one more film about a person who has turning point in life that demands the person to reevaluate his own faith and belief system.
in this case, the man is a petencostal bishop that gets very famous and has a big church preaching about salvation to heaven and punishment in hell.
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Ray Frankz
I'm watching the new Netflix movie "Come Sunday". It's one more film about a person who has turning point in life that demands the person to reevaluate his own faith and belief system. In this case, the man is a Petencostal Bishop that gets very famous and has a big church preaching about salvation to heaven and punishment in hell. At one point he realizes the hell doctrine isn't right and start teaching the Universal Salvation. As expected, he faces prosecution, loses friends, etc.
I was wondering, is it possible one day we see a big $ production based maybe on CoC of Ray Franz? The story is much much better than the one in this netflix movie, and since CoC is a long time published book, the Org wouldn't be able to shut the production. Imagine how many JWs have Netflix accounts, the temptation to sneak in the APOSTATE movie? Of course the Org would make all the threatens (disguised as advices) but c'mmon, IT WOULD BE A EX GOVERNING BODY (actually I believe no more than 10% of the JWs know there were ever a GB member that ended up disfellowshipped). Or if they made it a series, with the Ray Franz plot as the center, but with episodes focused maybe in Penton, or Carl Olof Johnson. It would be an apostate Hit.
I really think that, even tough information is free today, that would be a punch the Org wouldn't recover.
PS: I've pictured a movie based on CoC many times, I'd die for hearing the song FREEDOM by Anthony Hamilton (from Django) as the main theme. The lyrics also move me a lot, as I'm a PIMO.